
There is a lot of disinformation out there. Basically, untrue statements are put out there as facts, and then faulty logic is used to rationalize them.
You can’t fact check everything even if you wanted to. And you don’t have the same resources as an investigative journalist. You have to protect your brain – once you have let a wrong idea in it will fester in there, even if you know it isn’t true, and it will influence your thinking.
So when you find a source of information that is deliberately producing disinformation, then stop using it. I’m not talking about being wrong because nothing is perfect. When a news source makes a mistake, if they deal with it appropriatly by apoligizing, and firing or reprimanding the people involved that is forgivable as long as it doesn’t happen too often.
It is also important to realize there is subconscious bias, and to take that into account when you are analyzing your news sources. If everyone working in a news organization are all aligned politically, then even if they produce 100% accurate and unbiased coverage, they just plain may not cover things that are of interest to people in different political parties because they don’t even realize they are important. This is ok – nothing is perfect – you just have to realize it is happening and try to find other ways to take different perspectives into account. What a news organization covers is not as important as how they cover it. If you can basically trust what they say then keep it.
Another way to recognize good news sources from bad news sources is the presentation. If you find yourself regularly being emotionally affected instead of informed, then you are at risk for being manipulated. If an organization is trying to manipulate you, and they know you are likely to encounter some facts that go counter to what they want you to believe, then they may try appealing to your patriotism or they may try distorting the facts to get an emotional reaction out of you. Once you are viewing the problems in an emotional way you have lost your ability to think rationally. Some “news” organizations present news in this fashion daily, as a deliberate attempt to misinform you.
One of the problems you will run into is that there are essentially two major world views in politics right now. Both parties are corrupt, but one is so bad it should be considered a terrorist organization. We should be able to agree on a set of facts, and from there have discussions about the best course of action. Because we have different viewpoints, when that happens, we can end up with good decisions that are compromises and meet the needs of both groups. That can’t happen now because the terrorist party has spent decades lying. You know how when you tell a lie, and then you almost get caught and so you tell another, and then you almost get caught and the only way to keep from getting caught for any of your past lies is to tell yet another? The terrorist party has been doing that for so long they are completely disconnected from reality. We no longer have a common set of facts we can agree on to start compromising. The “facts” the terrorist party believes are all made up lies. The problem for you, trying to figure out what to believe, is the two world views that creates. One is based in reality. But the one that is not has been fleshed out over decades. It is a nearly perfect imitiation of reality. So if you allow yourself to enter and THEN start fact checking, all you will be doing is checking one lie against another. And these lies have evolved to interlock, so I assume it can actually feel real. It must – that is the only way to explain the completely insane behaviour of the terrorist party.
Don’t commit to a world view before you have figured out which one is real. Don’t go in and “sample the waters” to see if you like one over the other. You risk poisoning yourself. Remember – half the country fervently believes a big ball of lies. This is undoubtedly true because if you ask a Democrat or a Republican if they believe the other side believes nonsense, I think most would agree. They just don’t agree which side it is. Don’t drink the water before you have made your decision, because if half the country believes the nonsense, it must be addictive.
And once you have made your decision, you won’t be easily able to change it. If five years after the fact you start to realize you have made a mistake then your brain will wash those thoughts from your head (research cognitive dissonance). The worldviews are so far apart you can’t really adjust an idea or two. If you realize you made the wrong decision then you would have to throw away your entire belief system and start over. That is a lot of energy and effort and so your brain will try to prevent you from doing it.
The best way to decide which world view is based on reality, is to determine which party is tethered to reality with facts.
These are some of the questions I asked myself as I was figuring this out:
- How do political parties that are trying to manipulate people’s thinking behave?
The answer is that they try to control anyone with facts that oppose what they want you to believe. This means intellectuals, experts, the media, etc. Stalinist Russia did it, China did it during the people’s revolution, Hitler did it in Nazi germany, it happened in Cambodia. So which side tries to suppress intellectuals, experts, the media, and other sources of facts? Which side supports the experts behind climate science? Which side supports medical experts during our pandemic? Which side demonizes the press? Which side has no fact checking web sites? Which side contains more college professors? Which side contains more educated people? - Do fact checking sites work?
Fact checking sites exist only for one side. Are they reliable? I looked for lists of things the fact checking sites got wrong. Not one or two things because nothing is perfect, but a substantial number of wrong answers. Enough to make the sites unusable. I didn’t find any lists longer than 2 items. I researched reasons why people thought the fact checking sites were wrong and got several answers, but they were all based on bad logic. For example one site was accused of being owned by a person belonging to a specific political party. Ok, that would be concerning. But people are capable of serving a higher power than their political orientation. So if they had acted on their political beliefs, there should be lists of things they got wrong. Again – there aren’t any. Usually what people would say was “I checked them myself”. Best I could figure out was that meant they compared the fact checking site to the made up ball of nonsense they believe, and found discrepencies.
It’s hard to fact check a fact checking site yourself. You can’t fact check very much if you want a definitive test. You have to find very specific cases where you can get down to facts that are 100% observable by you, with no chance of being distorted by what you already believe. For example – because the Mueller report is available, you can read it yourself. You can easily see how Bill Barr characterized it. Was his characterization accurate? Make up your mind. Now see what the fact checking sites have to say. Do they agree with your assessment.
I did this too. My assessments always agreed with the fact checking sites.
As far as I can tell, yes they work.
That covers facts. On to logic.
Because the terrorist party has based their worldview on nonsense, they have evolved mutliple mechanisms to justify their choices to themselves and others. They can’t really just tell people upfront that logic has nothing to do with their decision to support a particular party – that it is a lifestyle choice more like picking a religion than selecting a political party. Calling what the believe a political platform is a misnomer. It is more accurately called a mythology.
They use disinformation techniques, exploit psychological biases, and fallacies to present a pseudo logical view of their nonsense world. You can spot who is trying to avoid confronting the truth if you understand these techniques.
The first is simple disinformation techniques. One is something I call “flooding”. I don’t know if it has a formal name, that is just what I call it. When you ask a member of the terrorist party a logical question that can’t be answered logically without admitting their mythology is nonsense, they answer with attacks, stating facts that don’t really have anything to do with your question. They will answer with one statement that is illogical or false two or three different ways, and they will answer with more than one. You can try to bring the conversation back to a logical discussion by countering what they say, but it may take 10 or 20 sentences to accurately and effectively counter one of their statements. They hit you with 5. So you pick one to counter instead of all 5, but after you answer that one they hit you with 5 more.
I have heard conversations like this described as “Having a conversation with a member of the terrorist party is like playing chess with a pigeon. Sooner or later they knock all the pieces over, declare victory, crap on the chessboard and fly away.” That is funny and sad and true.
This used to confuse me, but I figured it out. What you think is happening is a logical discussion, because as a logical person you just naturally assume that when talking about the life and death issues that politics sometimes is everyone would treat it importantly and try to come up with the best decision possible. But a member of the terrorist party is incapable of having a logical discussion. It will threaten their worldview. Logic has nothing to do with their decision making. When you realize that membership is a lifestyle choice like choosing a religion, and that members will fall in line with the mythology that is currently in vogue, then you can understand why these conversations follow this pattern. Their own personal opinion doesn’t really matter that much. They joined the party. They are told what to think. So to them, having a logical discussion is just an excuse to attack and annoy you. To score points for their team.
Another potential outcome is ghosting. When you are having a logical conversation with this type of person, when you reach the point where you are using logic to threaten their worldview, then they just stop talking to you. The reason is the same – you are getting close to convincing them you might be right, but that would mean throwing away their worldview. Cognitive dissonance kicks in, and their brain convinces them their time is better spent working on the car, or cooking, or watching tv. Whatever seems convenient – as long as it isn’t talking to you.
Another potential outcome is the brick wall. This one is also common. You start to threaten their worldview with logic, they tell you you need to educate yourself. Or you don’t know what you are talking about. Or call you a socialist. They won’t answer your question with actual facts though.
Or just blatant honesty. One of my conversations ended with the person I was talking to telling me she “Didn’t have to be logical because she was religious”. Out of all the outcomes I experienced, this one was probably the most honest. It did end the conversation, and her worldview remained unchanged.
Anyway, members of one of the political parties will usually be willing to engage in logical conversation, and are willing to challenge themselves to admit they are wrong, learn, and improve. Members of the terrorist party will not be able to do this. Mixing facts and logic in a conversation with them is kind of like throwing water on a witch. They will fight for their survival.
Psychological biases
The first one of note is not technically a bias, but I throw it in here anyway because it’s similiar.
Dunning-Kruger describes of one of the ways all of our brains are hardwired. Basically when we know just a little bit about something, we don’t know how much we don’t know, so we think we know way more than we do. This is worth reading about because it is a lynchpin of terrorist party thinking. This is the psychological mechanism they use most commonly to get people to ignore what experts say. Because they rely on this, you can use it to scare the crap out of them with one sentence. Here is the sentence:
If you were to choose an authority on climate science the same way you were to choose a medical authority (doctor, hospital, university, etc) to save the life of someone you love, how would you do it?
A member of the terrorist party will not be able to answer this question, and will commonly resort to one of the disinformation techniques above to protect their world view. It’s a simple straightforward question and they should be able to answer it – but they can’t. They can’t because it points out that they haven’t done their due diligence in forming their opinion on climate change. That they didn’t really take it seriously, even though just like solving a medical problem, lives are at stake.
The second psychological bias is Cognitive Dissonance. Basically, as a survival mechanism your brain will not let you believe two contradictory things at once. It will force you to choose the easiest option, so that you have some kind of decision you can act on and don’t just stand there like a computer stuck in an endless loop. Again, worth researching and understanding.
The third is Confirmation Bias. You are basically much more likely to believe things that support things you already believe. This is important because it helps to explain how some people can fill their heads up with such a prodigious amount of nonsense. If you start to believe nonsense, then you are more likely to believe new nonsense.
Which brings us to fallacies.
Fallacies are patterns of thought that seem logical but aren’t. For example, someone in an argument might say – “I know migrants bring crime with them because I’ve seen it with my own eyes”. They may have seen migrants commit some crimes, but it isn’t proof that migrants bring crime. You would have to get statistics over an area before you could tell if what the person saw was an isolated incident, or whether the presence of migrants in an area really did lead to more crime. Because something is true for one member of a group doesn’t mean it is true for the group they belong to. This is the Cherry-Picking fallacy.
Other fallacies that I have seen used are:
- Argument from fallacy
- False authority
- False delimma
- False equivalence
- Straw man
- Appeal to emotion
- Magical thinking
There is a pretty comprehensive list of fallacies on wikipedia.
You can think of that list of fallacies as the terrorist party logic handbook. This is as close to actual logic as they are able to come.


















